tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37189300.post870933906055221233..comments2023-10-22T06:11:18.082-04:00Comments on The Watering Hole: Thank Me Later (Vayeshev)Couchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15252823609030127815noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37189300.post-3836819308025993522007-12-06T21:33:00.000-05:002007-12-06T21:33:00.000-05:00bkrabbi - It's awesome to know that story is unoff...bkrabbi - It's awesome to know that story is unofficially "banned." There's some ... interesting stuff in the Torah, which is why I find it so interesting to actually read the text as I write for and run this blog. And yeah, cheers to liberal Judaism and Woody summing up the issue quite nicely.The Brooklyn Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12948928776452062001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37189300.post-75401372775514968202007-12-06T18:46:00.000-05:002007-12-06T18:46:00.000-05:00Brooklyn Boy,I love this story - It is found in th...Brooklyn Boy,<BR/><BR/>I love this story - It is found in the Teacher's Guide, "Stories not to teach in Hebrew School." The Torah never condemns Tamar for her later behavior - pretending to be a prostitute and conceiving a child with her stingy father-in-law - because without this very strange coupling, we wouldn't have heirs for Judah, and therefor no King David. Tamar emerges as a hero for her crazy, sleaazy chutzpah - and Onan is condemned. But liberal Judaism never condemns masturbation, because we all agree with Woody Allen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37189300.post-47311735329259714112007-12-05T07:55:00.000-05:002007-12-05T07:55:00.000-05:00Definitely a good point to bring up. That kind of ...Definitely a good point to bring up. That kind of entrenched thought, on the record, but without people knowing the fuller context, is why I focused on the section of the Parsha I chose to. Thanks for dropping by, sir.The Brooklyn Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12948928776452062001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37189300.post-58718654342404845672007-12-03T13:07:00.000-05:002007-12-03T13:07:00.000-05:00I think part of the problem with the masturbation ...I think part of the problem with the masturbation prohibition is that in Hebrew the verb for masturbation is <I>l'onen</I> . . . literally to "pull an Onan." Of course this may have been a later addition to the Modern Hebrew, but obviously the contextual problem of the story of Onan has become a deeper textual problem.Eli Wolfhagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15768125765230149388noreply@blogger.com